Monday, August 16, 2010

Mark Levin on citizenship for illegals and the 14th amendment

I think this is the clearest explanation you will EVER hear on the subject of citizenship as it relates to the 14th amendment.  Mark goes all the way back to the original authors of the 14th amendment as well as the Civil Rights Act of 1866 to explain what they meant.  He uses their own words and writings to show EXACTLY what they meant when they were writing it.

Here's an outline of what I thought were some of the more important points:

1 - The 14th amendments says "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States ..."

If they meant "all persons" then why did they include the words "subject to the jurisdiction thereof?"

Also, the word "jurisdiction" here does NOT mean the jurisdiction of the law (i.e. legal jurisdiction) it means "political" jurisdiction (as in allegiance.) This is made clear by the framers of the amendment.

2 - If a LEGAL tourist has a baby here, is that baby automatically a citizen? Answer - NO! If a LEGAL diplomat (or spouse) has a baby here, is that baby automatically a citizen? Answer - NO!

3 - Jacob Howard ... the AUTHOR of the citizenship clause of the 14th amendment said "This will NOT ... OF COURSE ... include persons born in the US who are:
a) Foreigners
b) Aliens
c) Who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the government of the US ..."

4 - It defies logic (except to liberals) that an ILLEGAL act committed by the parents can automatically confer American citizenship on their children. That is just stupidity.

This was the first 12-13 minutes of Mark's show of 08-13-2010.  If you'd like to pick it up where he left off you can click here to download the show and just skip ahead to about the 12 minute mark.  It will only be available for download for the next couple of months though (until about Oct 12, 2010) so if you've stumbled in here through a Google search you may be out of luck.


WOMBAT said...

But what about...

Congress subsequently passed a special act to grant full citizenship to American Indians, who were not citizens even through they were born within the borders of the United States. The Citizens Act of 1924, codified in 8USCSß1401, provides that:

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe.


Evil_Klown said...

Yes. The point he was making was that congress had to actually pass a law to make NATIVE AMERICANS citizens.

If they meant for babies of illegal aliens to also be included then why didn't they include them at that time?

Evil_Klown said...

In other words, this whole 14th amendment "problem" is not a problem -- and anyone who knows any history (and is being honest) must admit this.

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